Lastly, "you have really hurt at least one little girl who was honestly just trying to help" One compared to the 3 others I know of that personally approached me?
I have not made a single judgement at all. I approach every member with an issue with the same tone and a very open mind. Like I said, I had not an issue with the first post by any means and am in fact a fan of wilson's work, he argues clearly and well, regardless of his being right or wrong.
I presented the problem to you in hopes you could maturely take notice of how it may have come across as being wrong. REGARDLESS of the intent. I am not accusing your daughter by any means of bullying, just as I am not accusing Jixx or anyone else of it, I am just telling you that YOU have missed the point entirely that it came across as bullying. What if someone took all the posts made by your daughter and pointed out every flaw in what she said? I'm sure you would be arguing the SAME THING I am, that it was mean and bully-like, regardless of intent.
Like you said, it doesn't matter whether I agree or not, and that has not clouded my judgement. You have clearly misjudged me because of where I know I stand in it and your statement that I "missed the point."
Again, we had no problem whatsoever with her posting her opinion. That is perfectly fine. But starting a new thread to reply strictly to Jixx came across as rude and malicious. She could have very well kept her replies in the existing thread and there would have been much less issue.
And I apologize, I mistook your meaning regarding truth (see how easy misunderstandings occur?) Of course the Bible is entirely truth, but that doesn't mean what you say is the only right in the world though, or for that matter what I or your daughter says. She did not have to make an entire new thread to reply ONLY to what Jixx said.
The Miller Brothers,you know, the authors who you keep quoting, appointed me and the others who have had issues to deal with them because we know how things work here. We have all been here for years and we know what we're talking about.
This ENTIRE thing could have been avoided, if someone said, "I'm sorry, I understand. I didn't mean it like that at all."
Think about it please. In someone else's perspective, like Jixx's. He definitely does not have an ideal life by any means. think of all possible scenarios beyond just your daughter's hurt feelings, which by no means are over looked.
I'm sorry she FEELS bullied, but being approached on an issue does not make you a victim. And unfortunately, the way she feels is so far shared by everyone else that has been involved, and many have noted the tension she caused. NOT ME! I didn't even know about this until just recently when someone brought it to my attention.
By the way, that was incredibly wrong of you to point out "And you should have seen her praying about it" very self righteous (because you are clearly not an uninvolved source) and hypocritical on your part. Not hers. What if my mom went on and said, "You should see Lexi Fast every week for this site"? Not cool
One quick thing, The National Crime Prevention Council defines cyber-bullying as “the process of using the Internet, cell phones or other devices to send or post text or images intended to hurt or embarrass another person.”
WHat I have said certainly was not meant to embarass or hurt anyone. I am simply trying to resolve something. Jixx and Darrion both appeared to be trying to embarass each other. Whether intentional or no. So your daughter isn't just a victim of what is seeming cyber bullying, others have felt she was doing the same.
She presented her points in a manner that seemed this way, because she posted specifically, something to point out the faults in what Jixx said in our public forums for all to see. Seeming to be trying to embarass him. I hope you can see where both parties were wrong, and that neither of them were "right."
Listen, I am sorry that you feel this way. I had no intention of hurting anyone's feelings and I certainly don't want anyone to leave on account of it. Jixx has been with us for a long time, and he clearly has some issues. He definitely comes off as abrasive at times. I did not have a problem with your daughter's first post. It was the entire thread that was written strictly to respond to Jixx that came off as rude. I am not the only one who noticed this, I'm just the messenger. The other moderators agreed, as well as some other members.
I understand that you are entitled to you rown opinions, but like I said, it came off as much too mean for the other members. There was definitely a gentler manner by which your daughter's response could have been made. Not to say that Jixx necessarily handled it well either, but just to let you know, he talks to everyone like that, not just your daughter EVERYONE.
BEsides that, both sides of an argument can have truth and falshoods. It could be argued that the Hunger Games presents a warning against a future if governemnt is given too much control. Truth in that. There is not always only one only truth. for instance, if someone is convicted they should not drink, that doesn't mean people who do drink are sinning, just for that person would it be because they were spiritually convicted. The only decisive truth is the Christ came in the flesh, died, rose again, ascended into Heaven, and is coming agian. Other than that, as sinners, our positions can always be wrong, which is why there are many church leaders and scholars who debate things such as predestination and foreknowldge.
I also did not find your statement on Jixx's photo relevant.
I can also tell you that your daughter is not the only one who feels bullied right now. I can currently think of three people off the top of my head that feel that way besides her.
The moderators are appointed for a reason. I'm sorry that you disagree, but just saying "Not trying to offend" is not enough sometimes if what was said seems far too coarse in the first place.
We would love for Darrion to stay, but just to take heed as to what we've said. I myself have been scolded before I was a mod, and one can either move on and just say, "okay, my family is okay with this, but maybe the things I said could come off in a different way then I meant them" or you can leave. I prefer choosing something along the lines of the prior.
Please think about what I've said. I understand you are upset, and you have good reason. The way I talk to people is very straight foreward and I sometimes don't spare people's feelings (my own spiritual struggle) and I apologize for that. Please think about this. Jixx may have been wrong, but perhaps there was a better way that this could have been handled.
Listen, I understand that Jixx upset you, but you did not handle it in a mature manner by any means. If you had an issue, instead of making a thread about it proclaiming things to the world about how you disagree with someone, bring it to one of us mods.
I understand your points on the Hunger Games, but reading your posts, it's clear you did not understand what was being said.
For one quick thing, he wasn't saying homeschooling was wrong, he said sheltering your kids is wrong. Which is true. Keep a kid hidden from the world, they go into culture shock when they face it.
Also, I wan't you to remember that this is a KIDS site, HB was written for 12 and under, and some of the things you've included in your posts were not helping the site follow its #1 rule (have fun) and they have been somewhat innappropriate, such as your post the mentioned rape on something by N.D. Wilson.
I'm a fan of Wilson's work, but you need to seriously tone it down and really think before you reply.
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This obviously isn't going well . . . we will withdraw from this site so as not to cause you any further distress.
Walking in the Light anyway,
Darrion Fireheart
Lastly, "you have really hurt at least one little girl who was honestly just trying to help" One compared to the 3 others I know of that personally approached me?
I have not made a single judgement at all. I approach every member with an issue with the same tone and a very open mind. Like I said, I had not an issue with the first post by any means and am in fact a fan of wilson's work, he argues clearly and well, regardless of his being right or wrong.
I presented the problem to you in hopes you could maturely take notice of how it may have come across as being wrong. REGARDLESS of the intent. I am not accusing your daughter by any means of bullying, just as I am not accusing Jixx or anyone else of it, I am just telling you that YOU have missed the point entirely that it came across as bullying. What if someone took all the posts made by your daughter and pointed out every flaw in what she said? I'm sure you would be arguing the SAME THING I am, that it was mean and bully-like, regardless of intent.
Like you said, it doesn't matter whether I agree or not, and that has not clouded my judgement. You have clearly misjudged me because of where I know I stand in it and your statement that I "missed the point."
Again, we had no problem whatsoever with her posting her opinion. That is perfectly fine. But starting a new thread to reply strictly to Jixx came across as rude and malicious. She could have very well kept her replies in the existing thread and there would have been much less issue.
And I apologize, I mistook your meaning regarding truth (see how easy misunderstandings occur?) Of course the Bible is entirely truth, but that doesn't mean what you say is the only right in the world though, or for that matter what I or your daughter says. She did not have to make an entire new thread to reply ONLY to what Jixx said.
The Miller Brothers,you know, the authors who you keep quoting, appointed me and the others who have had issues to deal with them because we know how things work here. We have all been here for years and we know what we're talking about.
This ENTIRE thing could have been avoided, if someone said, "I'm sorry, I understand. I didn't mean it like that at all."
Think about it please. In someone else's perspective, like Jixx's. He definitely does not have an ideal life by any means. think of all possible scenarios beyond just your daughter's hurt feelings, which by no means are over looked.
I'm sorry she FEELS bullied, but being approached on an issue does not make you a victim. And unfortunately, the way she feels is so far shared by everyone else that has been involved, and many have noted the tension she caused. NOT ME! I didn't even know about this until just recently when someone brought it to my attention.
By the way, that was incredibly wrong of you to point out "And you should have seen her praying about it" very self righteous (because you are clearly not an uninvolved source) and hypocritical on your part. Not hers. What if my mom went on and said, "You should see Lexi Fast every week for this site"? Not cool
Bloody little ponies are cool, fyi.
One quick thing, The National Crime Prevention Council defines cyber-bullying as “the process of using the Internet, cell phones or other devices to send or post text or images intended to hurt or embarrass another person.”
WHat I have said certainly was not meant to embarass or hurt anyone. I am simply trying to resolve something. Jixx and Darrion both appeared to be trying to embarass each other. Whether intentional or no. So your daughter isn't just a victim of what is seeming cyber bullying, others have felt she was doing the same.
She presented her points in a manner that seemed this way, because she posted specifically, something to point out the faults in what Jixx said in our public forums for all to see. Seeming to be trying to embarass him. I hope you can see where both parties were wrong, and that neither of them were "right."
Listen, I am sorry that you feel this way. I had no intention of hurting anyone's feelings and I certainly don't want anyone to leave on account of it. Jixx has been with us for a long time, and he clearly has some issues. He definitely comes off as abrasive at times. I did not have a problem with your daughter's first post. It was the entire thread that was written strictly to respond to Jixx that came off as rude. I am not the only one who noticed this, I'm just the messenger. The other moderators agreed, as well as some other members.
I understand that you are entitled to you rown opinions, but like I said, it came off as much too mean for the other members. There was definitely a gentler manner by which your daughter's response could have been made. Not to say that Jixx necessarily handled it well either, but just to let you know, he talks to everyone like that, not just your daughter EVERYONE.
BEsides that, both sides of an argument can have truth and falshoods. It could be argued that the Hunger Games presents a warning against a future if governemnt is given too much control. Truth in that. There is not always only one only truth. for instance, if someone is convicted they should not drink, that doesn't mean people who do drink are sinning, just for that person would it be because they were spiritually convicted. The only decisive truth is the Christ came in the flesh, died, rose again, ascended into Heaven, and is coming agian. Other than that, as sinners, our positions can always be wrong, which is why there are many church leaders and scholars who debate things such as predestination and foreknowldge.
I also did not find your statement on Jixx's photo relevant.
I can also tell you that your daughter is not the only one who feels bullied right now. I can currently think of three people off the top of my head that feel that way besides her.
The moderators are appointed for a reason. I'm sorry that you disagree, but just saying "Not trying to offend" is not enough sometimes if what was said seems far too coarse in the first place.
We would love for Darrion to stay, but just to take heed as to what we've said. I myself have been scolded before I was a mod, and one can either move on and just say, "okay, my family is okay with this, but maybe the things I said could come off in a different way then I meant them" or you can leave. I prefer choosing something along the lines of the prior.
Please think about what I've said. I understand you are upset, and you have good reason. The way I talk to people is very straight foreward and I sometimes don't spare people's feelings (my own spiritual struggle) and I apologize for that. Please think about this. Jixx may have been wrong, but perhaps there was a better way that this could have been handled.
Listen, I understand that Jixx upset you, but you did not handle it in a mature manner by any means. If you had an issue, instead of making a thread about it proclaiming things to the world about how you disagree with someone, bring it to one of us mods.
I understand your points on the Hunger Games, but reading your posts, it's clear you did not understand what was being said.
For one quick thing, he wasn't saying homeschooling was wrong, he said sheltering your kids is wrong. Which is true. Keep a kid hidden from the world, they go into culture shock when they face it.
Also, I wan't you to remember that this is a KIDS site, HB was written for 12 and under, and some of the things you've included in your posts were not helping the site follow its #1 rule (have fun) and they have been somewhat innappropriate, such as your post the mentioned rape on something by N.D. Wilson.
I'm a fan of Wilson's work, but you need to seriously tone it down and really think before you reply.
vVv
Lexi
I'll be praying for him.
we're hoping that happens soon for him
BTY, I'm sorry to hear that, about his 'probs'.
Romans 8:28
English Standard Version (ESV)
28 And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose.
Oh, I didn't know that. But I'm okay with him having his own opinion.
andy is known for being a little rough round the edges, he has a few life probs going on. sorry for his attack on you.
I knew that
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Yea, the lego dude is Hunter.
he is hunter duh
Hey, Cypher!
HEllo!
okay.
Thank you, BladeAngel.
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